A facebook friend of mine Esther Mordecai sent a long message to
me incorporating her impression about Deva and Ashura communities and their
conflicts which is provided below followed by my response to her.
"God HU
created human and God Arimanus created Daeva to be used ageist humanity. Daeva
(daēuua, daāua, daēva) is an Avestan language term for a particular sort of
supernatural entity with disagreeable characteristics. It is one of the
corrupted Mitra religions God. In the Gathas, the holy song of prophet
Zoroaster, the Daevas are "wrong gods" or "false gods" or
"gods that are (to be) rejected".
The words deva
(Vedic Sanskrit) or Daeva are commonly considered to be variations of the same
word while the different words may at times be applied in a similar fashion,
there are times when they have different connotations. Devas are the gods of
the Hindu scriptures. The earliest of the Hindu scriptures, the Rig Veda
provides us with information about pre-Aryan religion Vedic - deva worship. The
white people mythological stories are full of Deva (Dew) stories as evil
qualities and demons. The terms 'demon', evil person and 'negative value' (or
'base quality') are freely interchangeable in the Aryan (Zoroastrian) religion
concept.
The demonization
of the Rig Vedic deva, primarily Indra, in the Avesta, the naming of a book of
the Zoroastrian scriptures, the Avesta as the Vi-daevo-data (modern name:
Vendidad) meaning we are suffering from the laws of the daevas, as well as the
name of the religion preached by Zarathushtra: Mazdayasno Zarathushtrish
Vidaevo Ahura-Tkaesho, that is, Zarathushtrian Mazda-Worshiper opposed to the
daeva through the laws of the Lord (Ahura, the path of God HU as the only
king), together signify the strong opposition of the Mazda-worshippers to the
daevas and their God the Arimanus (Shiva) is defining the Aryan (Zoroastrian)
religion Mazda worshiper opposition to the daevas.
Not all the
daeva in Aryan (Zoroastrian) religion texts are devas mentioned in the Vedas.
The Mazda worshippers began to use the word daeva generically to mean all
demonic forces of evil. The word daeva and div came to include the
personification of vices, other white Aryan gods who were not part of the true
Vedic of Mitra pantheon, as well as the gods of non-Aryan peoples. In chapter
32 of the Gathas, Zarathushtra speaks about the daeva, evil and the lie, a
concept he introduces in Y.30.6. In Yasna 32.3 Zarathushtra states: "At
yush deava vispaongha” “akat manangho sta chithrem." Translated as: “Hay
you soul of Deava, you are low do not stand against God HU” “you know God HU
never die, and you are on our path” The manner in which Zarathushtra refers to
the daeva is ambiguous. Zarathushtra refers to the daeva as a group who
collectively chose evil. He does not name the daeva in his hymns. However, some
of the negative qualities he speaks about - such as aeshma, wrath, and achistem
mano, evil mind,(Y.30.6) became named as daeva elsewhere in the Avesta. In the
Avesta's Aban (Avan) Yasht (5.94), we read of the Daevayasni, the daeva
worshippers. In the Vendidad's chapter 19, the Daevayasni are juxtaposed
against the Mazdayasni. Further, a book of the Avesta, is Vi-daevo-data (the
Vendidad), meaning the law against the daeva, mentions (in verses 10.9 and 19.43)
Indra, a Rig Vedic deva (see below), by name. Verses 10.9 to 10.16 mention
additional daeva: Sauru, Naunghaithya, Tauru, Zairi, Aeshma, Akatasha, Zaurva,
Buiti, Driwi, Daiwi, Kasvi, Paitisha, the daeva of Varenya (Varena) and the
daeva of Mazana, presumed to be a nation (not mentioned in Vendidad's list of
sixteen nations) - modern Mazandaran. Daeva mentioned elsewhere in the Vendidad
are Akem-Mano / Aka-Manah (evil mind) (19.4), Of the daeva listed in the
Vendidad, only Indra has a direct Vedic equivalent. Sauru is thought to be the
Vedic Sarva (sometimes used in the Vedas as a name of Shiva). Similarly,
Naunghaithya is thought to be the Vedic Nasatya. In the Vendidad, Indra
operates under the auspices of Arimanus (angra mainyu), the evil spirit (in later
texts, the embodiment of Arimanus (angra mainyu) is Ahriman, the devil
incarnate). Indra is a principle deva in the Rig Veda where he has more verses
addressed to him than any other deva. In the image to the right, Indra is seen
riding his elephant Airavata, unlike the invisible, non-anthropomorphic,
genderless, non-iconic Mazda. The idols or graven images are represented and
worshipped as daevas.
Indra's arch foe was the asura Vrita who was
"manifested by the father of a youth killed by Indra. The young man had
three heads, one for studying, one for eating, and one for watching. Indra was
extremely jealous of the peaceful, studious youth. Finally, Indra was so
enraged that he hurled a thunderbolt at him and cut off his heads." Vrita
emerged from the slain youth's body and was granted invincibility during night
and day, to materials wet or dry, on land and on the water. Thereafter, in
encounters between Indra and Vrita, Vrita was either victorious or succeeded in
frustrating Indra's exploits, until that is, Indra was aided by Vishnu as the
trickster (alsosee below). On Vishnu's advice, Indra feigned a friendship and
made a truce with Vrita. Then, after many years, Vishnu and Indra discovered
the means to penetrate Vrita's invisibility. One day, while they were walking
on a seashore at twilight - a time that was neither day nor night - the wily
Vishnu gathered the froth of the ocean - which was neither wet nor dry - and
threw it at Vrita standing at water's edge - a spot that was neither land nor
water - engulfing and choking the asura. We read the myth, core values of the
deva and asura worshippers, as well as the methods the deva-worshippers
employed in order to co-exist for generations with the dominant
asura-worshippers: bidding their time while plotting to gain power through
subterfuge."
My Response follows -
Firstly, there is no God to create humans
of any class which are products of natural evolution process. Hence, no really intellectual
works has references about existence of any God or its creations. If any
scripture refers to such things, the scripture is anti-human and created by
vicious persons with ulterior motives of misguiding humanity. Vedas and Avesta
have no such references.
Under circumstantial compulsions, some species
of life developed intellectual faculties to varying degrees while others
remained limited to wisdom of managing their instinctive needs. Although humans
developed their intellect to the highest level but different classes of people
used it to varying degrees. Even intellect has been used for developing and
complying with moral values, or for exploiting other weak and vulnerable forms
of life including humans. Those who succumb to use their intellect for
satisfying their vicious desires remain beastly in their conduct even today. Thus,
there developed two classes of people on the Earth - moral and vicious.
Deva Community
When Deva community was doing well on the
subcontinent, Dushyanta from Parthia visited the place, enticed a young
beautiful princess of Deva race - Shakuntalaa, for having a sexual relationship
with him, thus made her pregnant and ditched her. A boy named Bharat (Vrata)
was born out out of this pregnancy. To save honor of the Deva community,
Shakuntalaa was renamed as Kaushalyaa and Puru king was persuaded to marry her.
Out of the wedlock, she produced two twins - Brahmaa and Raama, and Vishnu and
Lakshmana. Brahmaa was the best at creativity while Vishnu worked for improving
economy of the subcontinent through wealth from the oceans, and duo of Raama
and Lakshmana worked as warriors to defend people and the land. Bharat was one
of the mightiest persons of the land who grew up along with the four Puru
brothers.
To begin with four brothers of Puru family
- Brahmaa, Raama, Vishnu and Lakshamana, took up development work on Indian
subcontinent to build up the land as a Nation. After cruxifixion of Jesus
Christ, his sister Mariam took care of his almost dead body, brought back to
health and took him to Indian subcontinent to join hands with Puru brothers. To
hide identity of Jesus, he was provided with an elephant mask to work as
Ganesha as principal Scientist and Author of Deva community and earned a name
of the first Deva. His sister Mariam married Vishnu to be known as Lakshmee -
as the Goddess of prosperity.
Brahmaa worked as principal
Creator-Architect, Vishnu as Economy developer through wealth from Oceans, and
the duo of Rama and Lakshamana worked as warriors. Gradually, Deva community
grew and became an economic and intellectual force to reckon with all over the
World with strict discipline and moral standards.
Development of languages for more effective
communication and scripts for keeping records of experiences for benefit of
future generations was the most important gain from intellectual exercises of
Deva community. Words of the language were chosen based on sounds and their
effects on human body organism, with inspiration from then developed languages
Latin and Greek. Today, we call that language by name of Vaidic Sanskrit.
Development of script saw many phases through Braahmee by senior-most Deva
Brahmaa, Kharostee by Jesus Christ, and ultimately Devanaagaree script, having
12 vowels and 33 consonants. It is still the most scientific script of the
World.
Language and Script proved to be seeds of
human civilization and local cultures. In our present context, Rigveda and
Avesta were the first two authentic documents about human experiences. None of
these is related to any God or worship, but devoted to highest human values. It
is absolutely wrong to say that Rigveda is a Hindu scripture. Actually,
religion Hindu was conceived much later than authoring of Rigveda and other
Vedas. The religion Hinduism has nothing to do with the Vedas and the scholars
concerned, often known as Vaidic scholars.
Ayurveda
Apart from human morality and discipline in
all aspects of life, Vaidic scholars accorded topmost priority to human health,
for which they developed Vaidic System of Health called Ayurveda, and published
detailed literature on this subject in their language of Vaidic Sanskrit.
Strangely, Ayurveda rarely relies on special medicines but recommends
adjustment in usual foods for curing diseases and keeping in good health. it is
a purely vegetarian system of health but provides information on non-vegetarian
foods too to pinpoint their harmful effects on human health.
Ayurveda Medicine System was enriched by
Healing through Sounds including Music and dance Developed by another great
Vaidic institution of Indra.
Ravanas
Indian soil has been rich in Iron and other
minerals which attracted Iron-smith a large family of 10 Ravans to the land for
extraction of Iron, making of arms and supply to wild races. Apart from this,
Ravans used to kidnap local women, make them pregnant and leave them uncared
for delivering orphan children. For serving their two purposes, they settled
down in highly uneven raves close to Aurangabad named places on the Indian
subcontinent for hiding their misdeeds. For safety of women of the
subcontinent, Raama and Lakshmana killed Ravanas.
Genesis of Gods and Religions
The first human settlement with a
democratic government called Acropolis was prospering and doing well as a City
State of Athens under guidance of scholars like Socrates. People of the State
belonged to class of moral humanity. At the same time, many wild races all
around were living under rules of their wild rulers. One of such rulers of
beastly class was Philip II of Macedonia who had a son named Alexander.
Plato was intelligent but had Aristocratic
views about ruling people, hence he disliked Socrates and the way City State of
Athens was managed. To get internal information on how the City State could be
destroyed, Plato posed as a disciple of Socrates and established an institution
called Academy in Athens. It was the
Academy where concepts of Gods and Religions were developed to misguide people
and establish psychological rule over them. One important religion was Judaism (Yahoodee)
preaching and relying on miraculous powers of God and Godly men beyond
rationality.
Acropols
On getting internal information about
Acropolis and passing it to Philip II of Macedonia, Plato prompted Philip to
invade Athens and ruin Acropolis to establish rule of Aristocrats (original
name 'tyrants'). Philip succeeded in this adventure in 338 bc when most of the
scholars of Acropolis fled away to Indian subcontinent to work with Vaidic
scholars. Acropols resettled themselves in norther part of the subcontinent and
built up the city of Agra, and are known as Agrawaals. Plato's disciple Aristotle
preached against Democracy and was all out to establish rule of the Aristocrats
throughout the World. He also became a teacher of Alexander and groomed him to
conquer the whole World and make his own Empire.
Krishna
When Indian subcontinent became prosperous
due to development works of Deva community, Plato thought of conquering the
subcontinent through subversion and invasion. From the elimination of Ravanas,
it became amply clear that no outsider would succeed in winning hearts of local
people. For subversion, he sent a group of people under Nanda of Yadu dynasty
to the subcontinent for preaching religion Judaism to spread terror of Divine
forces among innocent masses, masterminded birth of Krishna in family of Nanda
by implanting an embryo in womb of a pregnant woman Yashoda, and publicized
that Krishna was an incarnation of God.
Krishna was developed into a womanizer and
a trickster more than anything else from his very childhood, apart from being
declared an incarnation of God. He established himself as a Divine person
through his tricks particularly among innocent women. He publicized that a
person is free to commit any crime against others without getting punishment if
the crime is committed and dedicated to his name.
Paandavas
When Bharat came to know of illegitimacy of
his birth, he went to Parthia, traced a young maid Prithaa of Dushyanta family,
tricked her to have a sexual relationship with him, thus made her pregnant. A
boy was born out of this pregnancy who was thrown into River Ganges by the
mother Prithaa to save her family's honor. The boy was rescued and taken care
of by a childless couple to grow up as mighty Karna.
To take revenge of her dishonor from
Bharat, Prithaa changed her name to Kuntee, applied make-up on herself and
pleased Bharat to marry her. After the marriage, she fled away from the
husband's home and wandered here and there to satisfy her sexual lust. She
produced a black boy Yudhishthir from a black person, a twin of Arjuna and
Bheema from a sage Parashuraama, and a girl Renukaa from Vishnu. Even with this
she choose to lead a wandering life. Yudhishthir, Arjuna and Bheema were
jointly called as Paandavas who developed a habit of having sexual
relationships with women in forests, produce children and leave them there.
Krishna didn't like Deva community to live
in peace, so he traced out Kuntee and Paandavas, called them to the
subcontinent and demanded a share in the Puru kingdom for Paandavas. With the
help of mighty Arjuna and Bheema, he managed to kill many warriors and scholars
of Deva community. At this, conflicts between the two factions began.
Alexander
When Krishna could not manage things on the
continent to his choice, he invited Alexander to invade Indian subcontinent who
set out on his misadventure in 334 bc. After crushing Persian Empire, including
Egypt and Mesopotamia, under Darius II from 333 bc to 331 bc, he began his
march towards India 327 to reach Indus River valley in 324 bc where he was
defeated by Porus (Vishnu) when his Generals revolted. Krishna resettled him
along with his army men in Southern part of Indian subcontinent. Though
Alexander was fond of homosexuality, Krishna and his associates allured him to
womanizing. His army men were also advised by Krishna to kidnap Indian women
and enjoy sex with them in his (Krishna's) name as an incarnation of God. In
323 bc, Alexander was killed by Muni Agastya when the former's two Persian
wives happily married the great scholar and warrior Muni Agastya.
Buddha
Vaidic scholars had established an
institution for supervising literary creations with its head called Buddha.
Incidentally, this institution came into existence on the day of birth of
Krishna when a well known Vaidic scholar Shaakya Singh was appointed as the
first Buddha. Later, another Vaidic scholar named Gautam was appointed to this
position. Shaakya Singh had an errand son with lusty intentions for beautiful
wife Ahilyaa of Gautam. One night when Gautam was away from home, he wore a
make-up to look like Gautam, went close to Ahilyaa and had sexual relationship
making her pregnant. When Shakya Singh came to know of this misconduct of his
son, he extricated the son from his kingdom. The son went to Krishna who asked
him to settle down at Ceylon Island which was lying vacant at that time. The
lusty son declared himself as Buddha, floated a religion named Bauddha Dhamma,
and recruited millions of youths as his disciple monks to live lavishly with
clothes and food from hard-working people of the land. This jeopardized economy
of the subcontinent.
Ashura Shankaraachaarya
Another important development took place on
the land of Aryans - Aryanaam, now known as Iran, which was grooming into a
powerful Empire. Similar to Rigveda, Avesta was created there by moral humans
known as Jorashtrians. Opposed to them, there came into being a religious
gang-up of a wild Ashura race which believed in a God Arimanus (Enemy of Moral
Humans), bred buffaloes and traded in women of their land as their men were
suffering from chronic diseases. One such Ashura was Shankar who moved into
Indian subcontinent with a herd of buffaloes and group of beautiful sex-hungry
women.
Shankar joined hands with Krishna, was
intelligent enough to develop a new language, now referred to as Modern
Sanskrit, using words of Vaidic Sanskrit but with meanings mostly opposite to
those of Vaidic Sanskrit, and established himself as a Vaidic scholar
Shankaraachaarya for publishing misinterpretations of Vedas (Vedaanta), faked
Vaidic Grammar (Vyaakarana), faked organs of Vedas (Vedaanga), Brahmana Grantha for guidance of a new breed called Braahmana, etc in Modern Sanskrit, thus misguiding people that Vedas
preach about God and a Religion, which he named Sanaatan Dharma (religion
forever). He recruited an army of monks to preach his new religion and divided
the army into four sects - Goswamee in the Northern part, Giri in the Southern
part, Puree in the Eastern part and Saaraswat in the Western part of Indian
subcontinent. Later, followers of Judaism and Sanaatan Dharma were merged to
make a new religion known as Hinduism. Thus, Hinduism seems to be related to
Vedas while the two were created by mutually opposite Ashura and Vaidic
scholars and are mutually opposed in their real preaching. Through this false
linkage, Deva community was defamed to preach about existence of God and
founder of a Religion Hinduism.
Braahmanism
All the above-said negative developments
led to mass-scale kidnapping of women for sexual misuse which gave births to a
huge number of orphaned babies who were trained as Brahmans to survive on
cheating people in names of Gods and related miracles, Religions, Astrology,
etc and beg for satisfying their needs.
Enemies of Deva community in particular and
humanity in general didn't spare even Ayurveda from their misinterpretations of
its literature, thus making people ignorant and misguided about their own
health. In name of Ayurveda, Braahmans posing as Ayurvedic practitioners
prescribed many poisons and harmful foods to people, thus making them sick and
vulnerable to their exploitative tactics. Aryans
Aryans had been a great race of warriors
and intellectuals with their vast empire spread on the lands now covered under
Iran, Iraq, etc. When Deva race warriors were decimated by Krishna and
Associates, and Aryan Empire was captured by Alexander and Aryan Emperor Darius
II had fled away from capital Babylon, then Deva supremo Vishnu invited Darius
II to India and prepare for a battle against Krishna and Associates including
Alexander to take revenge of his defeat. Darius II was renamed as Duryodhana on
the Indian subcontinent where Vishnu renamed as Shakuni became his prime
advisor. Thus, Aryans came to India and known as Kaurava for their origin from
the banks of Kura River.
Conflicts and the Trump
All the above-said races, families and
individuals present on the land got divided into two factions - Deva, Acropols
and Aryans on one side and the rest - Krishna, Raavanas, Ashuras, Paandavas, Shankar,
Buddha, Brahmans, Alexander along with Yavans and Dorians on the other. The
first formation is commonly called Deva while the other as Ashur, and the
conflicts in between the two factions are known as 'Devaashura Conflicts'. Since
Deva stuck to morality even in conflicts, Ashura junta had no such bars on
their conducts and characters. The Ashura faction outnumbered Deva faction to a
great extent. Conflicts resulted into decimation of Deva faction except a few
individuals like Vishnu, Jesus Christ, Agastya, Mahaaveera, etc. Alexander
appointed an illegitimate son of Krishna - Mahaapadmaananda, as king of Indian
subcontinent under his Empire. Alexander was killed by Agastya and
Mahaapadmaananda by Vishnu after long tactical moves, leading to coronation of
Vishnu-Lakshmee son Chandra Gupta Maurya as the Emperor of India.
Although Alexander was killed on the
subcontinent, his body was taken back to Babylon where his death was declared. For
killing the Yavan emperor, Muni Agastya became famous as Kaala-Yavan (killer of
Yavan), with Krishna as his next target. At this Krishna got an undersea abode
fabricated at Dwaarakaa to hide himself. After his hiding, peace was restored
on the subcontinent. No further information on Krishna is available after his
hiding. Beginning with Chandra Gupta Maurya, Gupta dynasty ruled the
subcontinent for about 400 years when the subcontinent came to be known as the
Golden Bird throughout the World.
About the real history, there is a lot of
confusion among masses created by bad-intentioned persons who wish to establish
their psychological rule over innocent masses through terror of Gods and
Religions. In this process, well-intentioned scriptures like Vedas and Avesta
were misinterpreted to preach about Gods, Spirituality and Religions, spoiled and
defamed, and creators of these were given bad names.
Whatever may be opinions of different
people and races about well-known figures of the past, ultimate test of their
goodness is welfare of common people through advancements in Public Health, Science
and Technology, Economic soundness, Morality and Human Civilization. If there
is one thing as seed of such advancements, that is DISCIPLINE in all spheres of
life. Any philosophy that preaches extravaganza, particularly in sexual
matters, surely leads to human degradation.