Saturday, November 21, 2015

Early Human Experience of Vaidic Era

A facebook friend of mine Esther Mordecai sent a long message to me incorporating her impression about Deva and Ashura communities and their conflicts which is provided below followed by my response to her.
"God HU created human and God Arimanus created Daeva to be used ageist humanity. Daeva (daēuua, daāua, daēva) is an Avestan language term for a particular sort of supernatural entity with disagreeable characteristics. It is one of the corrupted Mitra religions God. In the Gathas, the holy song of prophet Zoroaster, the Daevas are "wrong gods" or "false gods" or "gods that are (to be) rejected".
The words deva (Vedic Sanskrit) or Daeva are commonly considered to be variations of the same word while the different words may at times be applied in a similar fashion, there are times when they have different connotations. Devas are the gods of the Hindu scriptures. The earliest of the Hindu scriptures, the Rig Veda provides us with information about pre-Aryan religion Vedic - deva worship. The white people mythological stories are full of Deva (Dew) stories as evil qualities and demons. The terms 'demon', evil person and 'negative value' (or 'base quality') are freely interchangeable in the Aryan (Zoroastrian) religion concept.
The demonization of the Rig Vedic deva, primarily Indra, in the Avesta, the naming of a book of the Zoroastrian scriptures, the Avesta as the Vi-daevo-data (modern name: Vendidad) meaning we are suffering from the laws of the daevas, as well as the name of the religion preached by Zarathushtra: Mazdayasno Zarathushtrish Vidaevo Ahura-Tkaesho, that is, Zarathushtrian Mazda-Worshiper opposed to the daeva through the laws of the Lord (Ahura, the path of God HU as the only king), together signify the strong opposition of the Mazda-worshippers to the daevas and their God the Arimanus (Shiva) is defining the Aryan (Zoroastrian) religion Mazda worshiper opposition to the daevas.
Not all the daeva in Aryan (Zoroastrian) religion texts are devas mentioned in the Vedas. The Mazda worshippers began to use the word daeva generically to mean all demonic forces of evil. The word daeva and div came to include the personification of vices, other white Aryan gods who were not part of the true Vedic of Mitra pantheon, as well as the gods of non-Aryan peoples. In chapter 32 of the Gathas, Zarathushtra speaks about the daeva, evil and the lie, a concept he introduces in Y.30.6. In Yasna 32.3 Zarathushtra states: "At yush deava vispaongha” “akat manangho sta chithrem." Translated as: “Hay you soul of Deava, you are low do not stand against God HU” “you know God HU never die, and you are on our path” The manner in which Zarathushtra refers to the daeva is ambiguous. Zarathushtra refers to the daeva as a group who collectively chose evil. He does not name the daeva in his hymns. However, some of the negative qualities he speaks about - such as aeshma, wrath, and achistem mano, evil mind,(Y.30.6) became named as daeva elsewhere in the Avesta. In the Avesta's Aban (Avan) Yasht (5.94), we read of the Daevayasni, the daeva worshippers. In the Vendidad's chapter 19, the Daevayasni are juxtaposed against the Mazdayasni. Further, a book of the Avesta, is Vi-daevo-data (the Vendidad), meaning the law against the daeva, mentions (in verses 10.9 and 19.43) Indra, a Rig Vedic deva (see below), by name. Verses 10.9 to 10.16 mention additional daeva: Sauru, Naunghaithya, Tauru, Zairi, Aeshma, Akatasha, Zaurva, Buiti, Driwi, Daiwi, Kasvi, Paitisha, the daeva of Varenya (Varena) and the daeva of Mazana, presumed to be a nation (not mentioned in Vendidad's list of sixteen nations) - modern Mazandaran. Daeva mentioned elsewhere in the Vendidad are Akem-Mano / Aka-Manah (evil mind) (19.4), Of the daeva listed in the Vendidad, only Indra has a direct Vedic equivalent. Sauru is thought to be the Vedic Sarva (sometimes used in the Vedas as a name of Shiva). Similarly, Naunghaithya is thought to be the Vedic Nasatya. In the Vendidad, Indra operates under the auspices of Arimanus (angra mainyu), the evil spirit (in later texts, the embodiment of Arimanus (angra mainyu) is Ahriman, the devil incarnate). Indra is a principle deva in the Rig Veda where he has more verses addressed to him than any other deva. In the image to the right, Indra is seen riding his elephant Airavata, unlike the invisible, non-anthropomorphic, genderless, non-iconic Mazda. The idols or graven images are represented and worshipped as daevas.
 Indra's arch foe was the asura Vrita who was "manifested by the father of a youth killed by Indra. The young man had three heads, one for studying, one for eating, and one for watching. Indra was extremely jealous of the peaceful, studious youth. Finally, Indra was so enraged that he hurled a thunderbolt at him and cut off his heads." Vrita emerged from the slain youth's body and was granted invincibility during night and day, to materials wet or dry, on land and on the water. Thereafter, in encounters between Indra and Vrita, Vrita was either victorious or succeeded in frustrating Indra's exploits, until that is, Indra was aided by Vishnu as the trickster (alsosee below). On Vishnu's advice, Indra feigned a friendship and made a truce with Vrita. Then, after many years, Vishnu and Indra discovered the means to penetrate Vrita's invisibility. One day, while they were walking on a seashore at twilight - a time that was neither day nor night - the wily Vishnu gathered the froth of the ocean - which was neither wet nor dry - and threw it at Vrita standing at water's edge - a spot that was neither land nor water - engulfing and choking the asura. We read the myth, core values of the deva and asura worshippers, as well as the methods the deva-worshippers employed in order to co-exist for generations with the dominant asura-worshippers: bidding their time while plotting to gain power through subterfuge."

My Response follows -

Firstly, there is no God to create humans of any class which are products of natural evolution process. Hence, no really intellectual works has references about existence of any God or its creations. If any scripture refers to such things, the scripture is anti-human and created by vicious persons with ulterior motives of misguiding humanity. Vedas and Avesta have no such references.  

Under circumstantial compulsions, some species of life developed intellectual faculties to varying degrees while others remained limited to wisdom of managing their instinctive needs. Although humans developed their intellect to the highest level but different classes of people used it to varying degrees. Even intellect has been used for developing and complying with moral values, or for exploiting other weak and vulnerable forms of life including humans. Those who succumb to use their intellect for satisfying their vicious desires remain beastly in their conduct even today. Thus, there developed two classes of people on the Earth - moral and vicious.

Deva Community

When Deva community was doing well on the subcontinent, Dushyanta from Parthia visited the place, enticed a young beautiful princess of Deva race - Shakuntalaa, for having a sexual relationship with him, thus made her pregnant and ditched her. A boy named Bharat (Vrata) was born out out of this pregnancy. To save honor of the Deva community, Shakuntalaa was renamed as Kaushalyaa and Puru king was persuaded to marry her. Out of the wedlock, she produced two twins - Brahmaa and Raama, and Vishnu and Lakshmana. Brahmaa was the best at creativity while Vishnu worked for improving economy of the subcontinent through wealth from the oceans, and duo of Raama and Lakshmana worked as warriors to defend people and the land. Bharat was one of the mightiest persons of the land who grew up along with the four Puru brothers.
To begin with four brothers of Puru family - Brahmaa, Raama, Vishnu and Lakshamana, took up development work on Indian subcontinent to build up the land as a Nation. After cruxifixion of Jesus Christ, his sister Mariam took care of his almost dead body, brought back to health and took him to Indian subcontinent to join hands with Puru brothers. To hide identity of Jesus, he was provided with an elephant mask to work as Ganesha as principal Scientist and Author of Deva community and earned a name of the first Deva. His sister Mariam married Vishnu to be known as Lakshmee - as the Goddess of prosperity.
Brahmaa worked as principal Creator-Architect, Vishnu as Economy developer through wealth from Oceans, and the duo of Rama and Lakshamana worked as warriors. Gradually, Deva community grew and became an economic and intellectual force to reckon with all over the World with strict discipline and moral standards.  
Development of languages for more effective communication and scripts for keeping records of experiences for benefit of future generations was the most important gain from intellectual exercises of Deva community. Words of the language were chosen based on sounds and their effects on human body organism, with inspiration from then developed languages Latin and Greek. Today, we call that language by name of Vaidic Sanskrit. Development of script saw many phases through Braahmee by senior-most Deva Brahmaa, Kharostee by Jesus Christ, and ultimately Devanaagaree script, having 12 vowels and 33 consonants. It is still the most scientific script of the World.  
Language and Script proved to be seeds of human civilization and local cultures. In our present context, Rigveda and Avesta were the first two authentic documents about human experiences. None of these is related to any God or worship, but devoted to highest human values. It is absolutely wrong to say that Rigveda is a Hindu scripture. Actually, religion Hindu was conceived much later than authoring of Rigveda and other Vedas. The religion Hinduism has nothing to do with the Vedas and the scholars concerned, often known as Vaidic scholars.


Apart from human morality and discipline in all aspects of life, Vaidic scholars accorded topmost priority to human health, for which they developed Vaidic System of Health called Ayurveda, and published detailed literature on this subject in their language of Vaidic Sanskrit. Strangely, Ayurveda rarely relies on special medicines but recommends adjustment in usual foods for curing diseases and keeping in good health. it is a purely vegetarian system of health but provides information on non-vegetarian foods too to pinpoint their harmful effects on human health.

Ayurveda Medicine System was enriched by Healing through Sounds including Music and dance Developed by another great Vaidic institution of Indra. 


Indian soil has been rich in Iron and other minerals which attracted Iron-smith a large family of 10 Ravans to the land for extraction of Iron, making of arms and supply to wild races. Apart from this, Ravans used to kidnap local women, make them pregnant and leave them uncared for delivering orphan children. For serving their two purposes, they settled down in highly uneven raves close to Aurangabad named places on the Indian subcontinent for hiding their misdeeds. For safety of women of the subcontinent, Raama and Lakshmana killed Ravanas.

Genesis of Gods and Religions

The first human settlement with a democratic government called Acropolis was prospering and doing well as a City State of Athens under guidance of scholars like Socrates. People of the State belonged to class of moral humanity. At the same time, many wild races all around were living under rules of their wild rulers. One of such rulers of beastly class was Philip II of Macedonia who had a son named Alexander. 
Plato was intelligent but had Aristocratic views about ruling people, hence he disliked Socrates and the way City State of Athens was managed. To get internal information on how the City State could be destroyed, Plato posed as a disciple of Socrates and established an institution called Academy in Athens.  It was the Academy where concepts of Gods and Religions were developed to misguide people and establish psychological rule over them. One important religion was Judaism (Yahoodee) preaching and relying on miraculous powers of God and Godly men beyond rationality.  


On getting internal information about Acropolis and passing it to Philip II of Macedonia, Plato prompted Philip to invade Athens and ruin Acropolis to establish rule of Aristocrats (original name 'tyrants'). Philip succeeded in this adventure in 338 bc when most of the scholars of Acropolis fled away to Indian subcontinent to work with Vaidic scholars. Acropols resettled themselves in norther part of the subcontinent and built up the city of Agra, and are known as Agrawaals. Plato's disciple Aristotle preached against Democracy and was all out to establish rule of the Aristocrats throughout the World. He also became a teacher of Alexander and groomed him to conquer the whole World and make his own Empire.


When Indian subcontinent became prosperous due to development works of Deva community, Plato thought of conquering the subcontinent through subversion and invasion. From the elimination of Ravanas, it became amply clear that no outsider would succeed in winning hearts of local people. For subversion, he sent a group of people under Nanda of Yadu dynasty to the subcontinent for preaching religion Judaism to spread terror of Divine forces among innocent masses, masterminded birth of Krishna in family of Nanda by implanting an embryo in womb of a pregnant woman Yashoda, and publicized that Krishna was an incarnation of God.
Krishna was developed into a womanizer and a trickster more than anything else from his very childhood, apart from being declared an incarnation of God. He established himself as a Divine person through his tricks particularly among innocent women. He publicized that a person is free to commit any crime against others without getting punishment if the crime is committed and dedicated to his name.


When Bharat came to know of illegitimacy of his birth, he went to Parthia, traced a young maid Prithaa of Dushyanta family, tricked her to have a sexual relationship with him, thus made her pregnant. A boy was born out of this pregnancy who was thrown into River Ganges by the mother Prithaa to save her family's honor. The boy was rescued and taken care of by a childless couple to grow up as mighty Karna.
To take revenge of her dishonor from Bharat, Prithaa changed her name to Kuntee, applied make-up on herself and pleased Bharat to marry her. After the marriage, she fled away from the husband's home and wandered here and there to satisfy her sexual lust. She produced a black boy Yudhishthir from a black person, a twin of Arjuna and Bheema from a sage Parashuraama, and a girl Renukaa from Vishnu. Even with this she choose to lead a wandering life. Yudhishthir, Arjuna and Bheema were jointly called as Paandavas who developed a habit of having sexual relationships with women in forests, produce children and leave them there.
Krishna didn't like Deva community to live in peace, so he traced out Kuntee and Paandavas, called them to the subcontinent and demanded a share in the Puru kingdom for Paandavas. With the help of mighty Arjuna and Bheema, he managed to kill many warriors and scholars of Deva community. At this, conflicts between the two factions began.


When Krishna could not manage things on the continent to his choice, he invited Alexander to invade Indian subcontinent who set out on his misadventure in 334 bc. After crushing Persian Empire, including Egypt and Mesopotamia, under Darius II from 333 bc to 331 bc, he began his march towards India 327 to reach Indus River valley in 324 bc where he was defeated by Porus (Vishnu) when his Generals revolted. Krishna resettled him along with his army men in Southern part of Indian subcontinent. Though Alexander was fond of homosexuality, Krishna and his associates allured him to womanizing. His army men were also advised by Krishna to kidnap Indian women and enjoy sex with them in his (Krishna's) name as an incarnation of God. In 323 bc, Alexander was killed by Muni Agastya when the former's two Persian wives happily married the great scholar and warrior Muni Agastya.


Vaidic scholars had established an institution for supervising literary creations with its head called Buddha. Incidentally, this institution came into existence on the day of birth of Krishna when a well known Vaidic scholar Shaakya Singh was appointed as the first Buddha. Later, another Vaidic scholar named Gautam was appointed to this position. Shaakya Singh had an errand son with lusty intentions for beautiful wife Ahilyaa of Gautam. One night when Gautam was away from home, he wore a make-up to look like Gautam, went close to Ahilyaa and had sexual relationship making her pregnant. When Shakya Singh came to know of this misconduct of his son, he extricated the son from his kingdom. The son went to Krishna who asked him to settle down at Ceylon Island which was lying vacant at that time. The lusty son declared himself as Buddha, floated a religion named Bauddha Dhamma, and recruited millions of youths as his disciple monks to live lavishly with clothes and food from hard-working people of the land. This jeopardized economy of the subcontinent.

Ashura Shankaraachaarya

Another important development took place on the land of Aryans - Aryanaam, now known as Iran, which was grooming into a powerful Empire. Similar to Rigveda, Avesta was created there by moral humans known as Jorashtrians. Opposed to them, there came into being a religious gang-up of a wild Ashura race which believed in a God Arimanus (Enemy of Moral Humans), bred buffaloes and traded in women of their land as their men were suffering from chronic diseases. One such Ashura was Shankar who moved into Indian subcontinent with a herd of buffaloes and group of beautiful sex-hungry women.
Shankar joined hands with Krishna, was intelligent enough to develop a new language, now referred to as Modern Sanskrit, using words of Vaidic Sanskrit but with meanings mostly opposite to those of Vaidic Sanskrit, and established himself as a Vaidic scholar Shankaraachaarya for publishing misinterpretations of Vedas (Vedaanta), faked Vaidic Grammar (Vyaakarana), faked organs of Vedas (Vedaanga), Brahmana Grantha for guidance of a new breed called Braahmana, etc in Modern Sanskrit, thus misguiding people that Vedas preach about God and a Religion, which he named Sanaatan Dharma (religion forever). He recruited an army of monks to preach his new religion and divided the army into four sects - Goswamee in the Northern part, Giri in the Southern part, Puree in the Eastern part and Saaraswat in the Western part of Indian subcontinent. Later, followers of Judaism and Sanaatan Dharma were merged to make a new religion known as Hinduism. Thus, Hinduism seems to be related to Vedas while the two were created by mutually opposite Ashura and Vaidic scholars and are mutually opposed in their real preaching. Through this false linkage, Deva community was defamed to preach about existence of God and founder of a Religion Hinduism. 


All the above-said negative developments led to mass-scale kidnapping of women for sexual misuse which gave births to a huge number of orphaned babies who were trained as Brahmans to survive on cheating people in names of Gods and related miracles, Religions, Astrology, etc and beg for satisfying their needs.
Enemies of Deva community in particular and humanity in general didn't spare even Ayurveda from their misinterpretations of its literature, thus making people ignorant and misguided about their own health. In name of Ayurveda, Braahmans posing as Ayurvedic practitioners prescribed many poisons and harmful foods to people, thus making them sick and vulnerable to their exploitative tactics.      


Aryans had been a great race of warriors and intellectuals with their vast empire spread on the lands now covered under Iran, Iraq, etc. When Deva race warriors were decimated by Krishna and Associates, and Aryan Empire was captured by Alexander and Aryan Emperor Darius II had fled away from capital Babylon, then Deva supremo Vishnu invited Darius II to India and prepare for a battle against Krishna and Associates including Alexander to take revenge of his defeat. Darius II was renamed as Duryodhana on the Indian subcontinent where Vishnu renamed as Shakuni became his prime advisor. Thus, Aryans came to India and known as Kaurava for their origin from the banks of Kura River.  

Conflicts and the Trump

All the above-said races, families and individuals present on the land got divided into two factions - Deva, Acropols and Aryans on one side and the rest - Krishna, Raavanas, Ashuras, Paandavas, Shankar, Buddha, Brahmans, Alexander along with Yavans and Dorians on the other. The first formation is commonly called Deva while the other as Ashur, and the conflicts in between the two factions are known as 'Devaashura Conflicts'. Since Deva stuck to morality even in conflicts, Ashura junta had no such bars on their conducts and characters. The Ashura faction outnumbered Deva faction to a great extent. Conflicts resulted into decimation of Deva faction except a few individuals like Vishnu, Jesus Christ, Agastya, Mahaaveera, etc. Alexander appointed an illegitimate son of Krishna - Mahaapadmaananda, as king of Indian subcontinent under his Empire. Alexander was killed by Agastya and Mahaapadmaananda by Vishnu after long tactical moves, leading to coronation of Vishnu-Lakshmee son Chandra Gupta Maurya as the Emperor of India.
Although Alexander was killed on the subcontinent, his body was taken back to Babylon where his death was declared. For killing the Yavan emperor, Muni Agastya became famous as Kaala-Yavan (killer of Yavan), with Krishna as his next target. At this Krishna got an undersea abode fabricated at Dwaarakaa to hide himself. After his hiding, peace was restored on the subcontinent. No further information on Krishna is available after his hiding. Beginning with Chandra Gupta Maurya, Gupta dynasty ruled the subcontinent for about 400 years when the subcontinent came to be known as the Golden Bird throughout the World.    
About the real history, there is a lot of confusion among masses created by bad-intentioned persons who wish to establish their psychological rule over innocent masses through terror of Gods and Religions. In this process, well-intentioned scriptures like Vedas and Avesta were misinterpreted to preach about Gods, Spirituality and Religions, spoiled and defamed, and creators of these were given bad names.  
Whatever may be opinions of different people and races about well-known figures of the past, ultimate test of their goodness is welfare of common people through advancements in Public Health, Science and Technology, Economic soundness, Morality and Human Civilization. If there is one thing as seed of such advancements, that is DISCIPLINE in all spheres of life. Any philosophy that preaches extravaganza, particularly in sexual matters, surely leads to human degradation.   


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